Best bar / club for a foreigner with 0 social skills to find interested non-professional women?

tbh forget khao san, that's not your scene. try a place like levels or above eleven in sukhumvit - they're rooftop bars with a more mature crowd, women in their late 20s to 30s who are just out with friends after work. the music is loud enough to have a vibe but not so loud you cant talk, and being on a rooftop gives you an easy opener "nice view right?"

also don't sleep on the lounge at the marriott queen's park, it's quieter and full of thai women who work in offices nearby having after work drinks. they're used to foreigners and honestly some are just looking for a stable guy to take them to nice dinners, not partying. buy a bottle of wine for your table and just sit there, you don't even have to approach anyone aggressively, just exist and let them come to you if they're interested

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honestly, skip khao san road for what you're looking for. climx and the club are tourist traps with loud music and drunk backpackers, not the vibe for a calm conversation. try a place like the iron fairies in thong lo, it's dimly lit and has live jazz so you can actually talk without shouting. the crowd is a mix of locals and expats, and the women there aren't looking for a transaction, just a decent night out. buy a drink at the bar, sit near the counter, and if you catch someone's eye just nod and say "hi" - the low pressure setting does half the work for you.

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Krua Dok Mai Kao is solid but I've always found their som tam a bit tame on the pla ra. If you want the real funky version, try the shophouse spots along Soi Udomsuk 26, near the night market end. They pound it fresh with fermented fish that'll clear your sinuses, and it's like 60 baht. Different style from the On Nut places, more Lao-leaning.

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for som tam specifically i'd say the Isaan spots in Chatuchak are underrated, weekdays only though since the weekend crowd ruins the vibe. there's a stall near gate 2 that does tam pa with fermented bamboo shoots, super sour and funky, not something you see much in On Nut. if you're already heading north for Or Tor Kor anyway its worth the detour.

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honestly the som tam at Krua Dok Mai Kao is good but what got me hooked is their nam prik pla raa dip with the raw veggies, that funk hits way harder than the papaya does. think most people sleep on it cuz they just order the som tam and gai yang. also pro tip, go before noon on weekdays, after that teh pla ra gets milder cuz they batch it for the lunch rush

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