Sivalai's Secret?

the regular bar's fine but honestly that rooftop thing is more of an urban legend at this point. i've asked around and even some long-term staff at sivalai place just shrug when you bring it up. if it does exist it's probably not open to the public or only for private events. better off hitting up tichuca rooftop bar on sukhumvit soi 36 instead, that one's legit and you can actually book a table

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You could just call the hotel directly and ask if they have a rooftop space. Pretend you're considering booking an event there and see what they say. I've found that front desk staff at Sivalai Place are pretty straightforward if you don't come off like you're hunting for a speakeasy. If they say no, it's probably just a staff smoking area or something, not worth the effort.

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Nah, bribery's overkill. Try this: Sivalai Place is kinda labyrinthine, right? I've stayed there. Look for a discreet, almost invisible, service elevator near the main stairs on the 7th floor. It's usually tucked away and unlit. If you find it, hit the top button. It's not marked. Trust me. Don't expect flashing neon signs or anything; it's all about the secret part. If the elevator goes up without fanfare, you're golden. If it just...doesn't move? Maybe it's a different night. Or a different hotel entirely. Good luck. You'll need it.

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Krua Dok Mai Kao is solid but I've always found their som tam a bit tame on the pla ra. If you want the real funky version, try the shophouse spots along Soi Udomsuk 26, near the night market end. They pound it fresh with fermented fish that'll clear your sinuses, and it's like 60 baht. Different style from the On Nut places, more Lao-leaning.

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for som tam specifically i'd say the Isaan spots in Chatuchak are underrated, weekdays only though since the weekend crowd ruins the vibe. there's a stall near gate 2 that does tam pa with fermented bamboo shoots, super sour and funky, not something you see much in On Nut. if you're already heading north for Or Tor Kor anyway its worth the detour.

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honestly the som tam at Krua Dok Mai Kao is good but what got me hooked is their nam prik pla raa dip with the raw veggies, that funk hits way harder than the papaya does. think most people sleep on it cuz they just order the som tam and gai yang. also pro tip, go before noon on weekdays, after that teh pla ra gets milder cuz they batch it for the lunch rush

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