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2000 is steep for a seat charge but ginza tiny bars do run 1000 to 1500 as otoshi or table charge, so its not crazy. the part that matters is whether he told u before u ordered and whether its written somewhere. good spots usually have a little sign or menu note. walking away was fine tbh, plenty of other bars in that area without the upfront fee
yep the sign thing is key, if it's not written anywhere and he's just quoting you at teh door that's when i'd bail
Otoshi gets deducted, seating charges don't.
yeah the sign thing is what id check first too. but 2000 upfront with nothing written is a red flag, places I go to in Ginza show the charge on a menu or a little card at the counter. cash only bars there can get weird about it too
cash only spots there often add a service charge on top too so ask if the 2000 covers everything
Ask if it covers the 10% tax too.
Written signage at the entrance is what separates a legitimate charge from a door hustle, so no card means no deal.
Ginza bars pull this constantly, though 2000 upfront usually means they're short on regulars. Next time just check if it comes off the bill or gets added on top.
Late-night safety around Common Place, Tokyo 2026
honestly the backstreets past the station are fine until around midnight, it's the stretch by the coin parking lots i'd skip since it gets pitch black & nobody around
yeah the coin parking stretch past 11 is teh sketchy bit
The route past the station is well lit and busy enough with taxi drivers and konbini staff until about 1am, so I'd take it over the dark side streets. The stretch along the main road near the crossing gets quiet fast after midnight though, so time it before then.