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How would you react to sexual harassment by gay men?
I had to take this break on Saturday because there were simply a lot of assaults.
Of c… I, male 31 years old, was partying in the club from 26.07.2024 - 29.07.2024 with an interruption on 27.07.2024.
I had to take this break on Saturday because there were simply a lot of assaults.
Of course, my partner and I were aware that Friday was CSD, but as a straight couple you would think that gay men would take this into account.
Our son is currently on vacation with his grandparents and we have two weeks to ourselves, so we wanted to go out partying again and just have fun.
The guys who touched me sometimes came up behind me and grabbed my ass or just grabbed me in a very assaultive way. The grab went into my crotch 4-5 times. As for my stature, I'm stocky and athletic. Normally, most people tend to keep their distance from me and approach me rather hesitantly, but as you get older and become a parent, you become calmer.
I used to react very aggressively when I was younger and would probably have lashed out in confrontational situations back then.
My wife wanted / had to stay next to me, simply because I was touched 8 times in the first hour alone and it got really worse as time went on. After about 4.5 hours, one guy was so bold that he bumped into me and touched my bottom. I thought, okay, he wanted to get through and it's just cramped because there are so many people dancing. After a few minutes (about 2-3 minutes) he came back and this time walked in front of me through the crowd and just grabbed my body with his whole hand.
I immediately showed him my wedding ring and kissed my wife. So I showed passive aggression, no chance. He then said - "Oh your looking so handsome, may I hug you". Of course I was flattered and gave him a quick hug, during which he grabbed my butt. I told him again that I was straight and thought he understood, but had my wife really close to me as a companion the whole time afterwards.
Then after 10 minutes he came again, this time with a friend and he went in front of me and grabbed my cock and his friend really really hard my ass.
A friend of my wife's, who is gay, came over immediately and pushed them both away. We got into a fight and I was really close to smacking the two guys.
But I managed to control myself. Afterwards, I was touched several more times by other men, so we decided to leave on Saturday morning. My wife and others with us were stunned by what happened the whole evening. Mind you, it wasn't just me that something like this happened. A buddy was asked in the restroom if he wanted to give another guy a blowjob. We wanted to write off the proud entrance fee of €25 for the weekend.
But we went back in on Saturday evening and there were still situations like that, but maybe 3-4 times in the rest of the time.
I don't know why, but I didn't enjoy partying on the day of the CSD. It used to be a really good day to celebrate 10 years ago.
For my part, I find this assaultive behavior by men disrespectful and I'm afraid that if I say something against it, I'll be labeled homophobic, which is why I'm only writing this question today.
Was it just a few idiots bundled together in the S....ph....s or has the scene really changed for the worse, as my wife's friend told me a few weeks ago?
that club on csd weekend is basically the wild west, i've had friends dip out early for the same reason. the s....ph....s crowd skews older and more aggressive with the cruising thing, especially during pride when it's rammed. if you want a mixed crowd that actually respects space, try ://about blank on a random saturday or even ritter butzke on a sunday afternoon, way chiller vibe. the 25 euro weekend pass is a joke for that kind of stress anyway, you're better off picking one night and going somewhere with a door that actually cares
You ran into a bad combination of CSD weekend crowds and that club's specific vibe. The S....ph....s has always been more of a cruising-heavy space, especially during pride, and the density of people that weekend makes boundary-pushing way more common. I've heard similar complaints from straight friends who went there during CSD and felt like they were in a meat market rather than a regular club night.
Your experience isn't about the whole scene changing, it's about that venue on that specific weekend. Try KitKat or ://about blank on a normal Saturday if you want a mixed crowd where people actually respect "no" without you needing a wedding ring as a shield. The 25 euro weekend pass is a ripoff anyway for that kind of stress.
Honestly, that sounds like a nightmare. Berlin club crowds during CSD can be a total free-for-all, especially in spots like that one, where boundaries kinda go out the window. It's not the whole scene, just a specific type of dude who thinks the event gives them a pass to be handsy.
I'd skip that place during pride weekend next time, try somewhere like OHM or even a random bar in Neukölln if you want less of that vibe. The price tag for that stress is just insulting.
What is the correct spelling for a street name that appears differently on multiple signs in Charlottenburg?
Worth noting that Berlin street names have official umlaut and ß rules that trip people up, so a sign showing "Strasse" versus "Straße" is not actually a spelling error, just an older transcription. Same with "ue" versus "ü" (e.g. "Kantstrasse" vs "Kantstraße"), both are considered valid renderings and you'll see the ß version on the blue Schilder and the ss version on older plaques or in databases that predate Unicode. If the difference you're seeing is between those two forms, there's nothing to fix and both are technically correct.
if the signs u mean are the old enamel ones on the house facades those are often protected as Baudenkmal so nobody's allowed to correct them even if the spelling is outdated. the binding version is whatever is in the Berliner Strassenverzeichnis plus the entry in the Liegenschaftskataster, so if u tell me the street i can point u to the right Bezirksamt Mitte or Charlottenburg-Wilmersdorf page. tbh the merged district thing is real but the facade signs are a separate story, theyre basically museum pieces at this point
honestly thats super common in Charlottenburg, the district offices were merged from older Bezirke and nobody ever fixed all the Schilder. if its a real street you can check the official strassenverzeichnis on berlin.de, that list is what the Burgeramt actually goes by. which street is it? some of the Kaiserdamm / Kantstrasse signs are notorious for this.
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