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Admission Grades to Berlin Gymnasiums: how much is enough, and how to improve?

Sorry for the long read, folks.

So, yesterday my son has had his Zeugnistag. He's finished his 4th class, and as far as I know, certificates from the 2nd half of 5th class and the 1st half of the 6th…
Sorry for the long read, folks.

So, yesterday my son has had his Zeugnistag. He's finished his 4th class, and as far as I know, certificates from the 2nd half of 5th class and the 1st half of the 6th class are taken into account when you are applying into Gymnasium.

He did well, and has a certificate with almost all 2 (besides 1 in English). So if he'll be performing similarly in 5/6 classes, the average grade will be around 1.8. I've looked up admission grades to Gymnasiums in our area (Pankow), and they are all starting from 1.4. If this information is correct, then he has no chance to entry Gymnasium, even if he wants. I am that close to panic.

Right now we are thinking about several obstacles that need to be dealt with if we are supporting our kid with Gymnasium path, and I would really appreciate any advice on any of the topics below.

We are the 1st generation immigrants, so helping him to get a full command of German language is quite difficult for us. We could afford a Nachhilfe for German and Math, but it seems that teachers there are more inclined to help children to get from 3/4 to 2 than get from 2 to 1, so their feedback was "your kid is actually doing fine, there's nothing to improve from our side". But just "fine" seems to be not enough sadly. I don't really know anymore how we could help him there.

He's being bullied at school. Now it's more subtle than a year ago, but it obviously influences his overall wellbeing and ability to concentrate. I wonder if in Gymnasium the situation with bullying is somehow different, so we could look forward to it.

He was diagnosed with ADHD, and because of that he was rejected to join a private school before (they explained that they have already many pupils with that diagnosis, which puts a strain on their teaching stuff). Would it be something that harm his chances to be admitted to Gymnasium?

His grades for Kunst and Music are also harming the average. Due to the slight dyspraxia he has troubles drawing and writing neatly. With that he constantly has problems with grading his works at Kunst, like teacher's comments are mostly that drawing is less neat than his peer's. Nothing else. Also the whole school is struggling with the Musik teacher, I am hearing both from our son and other kids' parents. Our son is playing piano since he was 5 y.o., really enjoys it, prepares something special for every school concert, and still not getting more than 2. What should we do there? Talk with teachers individually how he could improve his grades? I don't know if it actually helps or will make things worse.

TLDR: How to help a kid to go from good to very good grades in order to get into Gymnasium in the last 2 years before?
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honestly the grades thing is stressful but 1.8 is not a lost cause at all. the cutoff numbers you see online are usually from the first round of placements where the most competitive kids get in. after that there are multiple Nachrückverfahren rounds where spots open up because some kids pick other schools or move. i know a family in Prenzlauer Berg whose kid got into a gymnasium with a 2.0 average last year because they applied to the one near Weißensee that's less popular.

for the bullying thing, gymnasien are not automatically better but the social dynamic does shift a bit because the kids are more focused on academics. that said, if the bullying is bad now switching schools might help reset things regardless of the type. you could also talk to the Schulamt about a school with a good anti-bullying program they have a list of schools with certified Schulsozialarbeit.

the Kunst and Music grades are tricky because they're subjective but you can definitely push back. for Kunst ask if he can do a mündliche Leistung instead of the drawing some teachers will let him explain his artistic intent or describe the technique he wanted to use. for Musik the teacher might be grading on participation or written work rather than actual musical ability so ask if he can do a practical test like playing a piece on the piano that might give him a better chance.

for nachhilfe you are right that most places focus on getting kids from 3 to

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First thing: don't panic based on one year's cutoff numbers. Those 1.4 averages change every year depending on how many kids apply. In Pankow they've been creeping up, but a 1.8 with a strong recommendation from his Grundschule teacher can still get you in, especially if you apply to a couple of the less oversubscribed schools like the one near Schönhauser Allee or the Europaschule.

For the ADHD and bullying: Gymnasien in Berlin are legally not allowed to reject based on a diagnosis, and some of the newer ones actually have better support systems than the private schools. If you're worried about the bullying, look into schools that have a "Sozialarbeit" program or a Streitschlichter program - the one at Kurt-Tucholsky-Oberschule has a decent reputation for that.

On the Kunst and Music grades: talk to the teachers, but frame it as "how can he show his knowledge differently" rather than "why is he getting a 2". For Kunst especially, some teachers will accept a verbal explanation of the technique or a sketchbook process instead of just the final drawing. For Musik, if your son plays piano at home, ask if he can do a short performance as part of his assessment instead of relying on written tests.

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fwiw the 1.8 thing is not as dire as it looks. the cutoff numbers on the berlin senate website are from the first round of the algorithm, but after that there's the zweites und drittes Vergabeverfahren where tons of spots open up because families move or pick private schools instead. a friend's kid in wedding got into a gymnasium last year with a 2.1 after the second round, so don't give up on that yet.

for the adhd thing, the private school rejecting him was straight up illegal but you already know that. for gymnasium, the teachers don't see his diagnosis unless you put it in the application, and honestly i'd leave it out. the bullying is a different story - switching schools in general can help reset social dynamics, but gymnasien aren't automatically better for that. the one at Rüdersdorfer Straße has a pretty active anti-bullying program with a sozialarbeiter who's there full time, might be worth checking out.

on the kunst and music grades, i'd try a different approach than the other replies. instead of asking for alternative assessments, just ask the teachers what specific criteria they use for the note. sometimes it's stuff like "brings materials" or "participates in group discussions" that you can fix easily. for musik, since he actually plays piano, maybe ask if he can do a vorspiel for the teacher during a pause or after

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